Posted by: Michael Lee on: July 16, 2009
I’ve been doing a little bit of research over the past couple of years, and I see some examples of other organizations that are “like” what we are doing here. Some are in other fan communities, others in art communities, others may be in religious communities, and others are in the non-profit space generally.
This sort of activity isn’t even entirely unprecedented within the Twin Cities fannish community, even if the scale is bigger than before. The Gordon R. Dickson Memorial Scholarship Fund has been running for several years, and is probably the closest example in our community. The Minnesota Fan Alliance also ran for several years in the late 1990s, but that has been dormant for several years, and the scope of our plans here are much larger than calendar co-ordination.
One of the things that fan groups (at least in my experience) tend to mainly look to other fan groups and so they say something “can’t be done” when other groups do things like this all the time. I am not exempt in that particular form of tunnel vision and want to cast my net wider.
What other groups are you aware of that are “similar” to what we are looking at putting together here? We’re looking at groups that aren’t just focused on one event; organizations that are coalitions of other groups.
Posted by: Jon Olsen on: July 15, 2009
That’s just one of my favorite lines from Futurama—it’s the leader of the Neutrals calmly reacting to the beige alert.
Anyway, I want to further examine the ideas put forward in the early vision post. My point in this is to establish some talking points about the organizational part.
I’d like to talk about those organizational things first, even with a goal of a community center lurking around. Before we jump to our building, or at least in parallel to that conversation, I’d like us to have a conversation about the basic framework in which we’d tackle projects of that scale.
What we’re talking about here is a neutral ground, comprised of experienced leaders of fan-run organizations.
- Establish a basic requirement of tenure as exec, director, or other leader in a fan organization (could set additional organizational requirements too)
- Set a limit on number of board representatives from any one organization
- Experience and “sweat equity” would be critical components
- Maybe invite a non-affiliated at large member as an adjunct (the way many boards often have community leaders as participants)
Posted by: uberhill on: July 14, 2009
I’ve been asked what neighborhood this will be in, where the money is coming from, what programs it could offer and whether we’ll have vending machines. My favorite is: “What’s the vision?” to which I respond, “What do you think it should be?”
Each of the contributors here know what their own vision is, but it is important to hear what other ideas may be out there. This site is a key part of the process of developing a shared vision, with the contributions of anyone who wants to participate. I’m not disturbed that a final outline of the center and its programs is still wanting; I’d be far more worried if someone handed one down from a mountaintop and declared: It Shall Be So.
I submit that the only question immediately relevant is “What would we like to see in a community center?” All the other questions will be important in their turn, but this needs to be first because it’s the foundation.
What is the process from there? What kind of structure, finance, rules and whatnot will we develop? I don’t know yet. To decide any of that before we finish developing a vision is foolish. That’s the point of a vision: it’s the end in mind when you figure out a path to accomplish it.
So for now, let it be enough that we’re talking, listening, brainstorming.
So, ideas?
Posted by: Michael Lee on: July 13, 2009
The Minnesota Society for Interest in Science Fiction and Fantasy board was discussing what sort of new office space we needed, and the idea came that what we really wanted was something more than Just Another Storage Space. We hear members of the community call out for a workshop space, a performance space, a meeting space, and a gaming space. Can we find a way to meet those needs as a community?
I’ve had a feeling for a while that we’re entering “the next era” in Twin Cities fandom, and this is a part of taking an active role in shaping that next era. Part of this was realizing several months ago that CONvergence this year was going to be bigger than Minicon ever was. Or seeing the leadership changes at many of our local conventions and organizations.
It is also seeing the changes in our local community — I used to live fairly close to Dreamhaven, and I was able to stop there almost every week for my comics fix. When Dreamhaven moved, it hit home for me that I’m not sure how the specialty store survives past this generation when everything is available on the internet. It seems likely that there may be fewer stores that Our Kind will be able to meet at — so we need to find new gathering points, new social centers.
We’re also seeing it with the changes in the general community at large — while it isn’t unusual for libraries to serve as meeting locations, government cutbacks mean that they aren’t open for the hours that we need, or aren’t always open to smaller or less organized groups. And we have the horrible tendency for very long after-meetings; at both of the Society meetings to discuss bringing CONvergence permanently to four days last fall, we would spend a half hour in front of the library after our meeting; blocking the entrance or filling the parking lot. If we had a Space Of Our Own, we wouldn’t have to end at 9:00 PM if the discussion warranted it.
And I’ve seen signs of interest in greater collaboration amongst other parts of the community as well. I’d like to see a way for us to build a venue to support that collaboration.
Why Now? Why Not?
Posted by: Jon Olsen on: July 12, 2009
Okay one definition of SMOFfing is the practice of people sitting around discussing cons and geek community politics, and sometimes people joked as if decisions were being made by “secret masters of fandom” (hence the acronym). I find it has grown to be a fairly repellant term. Its meaning has become self-fulfilling, and not nearly as funny as when it was first used. Originally it was a kind of humorous self-deprecation: you know, “Oh we’re the secret masters of fandom” — funny because of course it’s so obvious we are not. But over time, some people actually smof and kind of mean it. The problem I have there is the first letter: “S”, as in secret.
Well, rather than turning this into a smofpit exercise, here’s a chance to invite public comment and input. This is intended to be a public exercise in talking about organizing. Partly so no one can later say “oh it’s just ______ trying to do ______.”
We aren’t just _____. We aren’t trying to do _______.
We are you, and asking you to help us figure out some good ways of working together at inter-organizational levels.
So let’s start by unpacking some of the original pieces of the ideas as they’re in progress:
I propose that we create a new, neutral non-profit organization with the goal of serving as a coordinating space between any and all willing fan-run organizations in the region.
- A small, nimble nonprofit board organization
- A nonprofit which has the ability and the mandate to look for larger projects benefiting multiple organizations.
Why something new? Trust. That’s not the only reason, but it’s a significant portion. There are trust issues in these communities. Sometimes concoms don’t trust the boards of their parent organizations, and vice versa. When these ideas were percolating, word got out (word always gets out), and I heard from members of Anime Detour’s own board that they’d heard that CONvergence had put together a plan to “take over” Anime Detour! No really, the impression in the earliest days—when this was just a smoffing exercise—was that they thought we thought we’d be “showing them how a real con is run.” Telephone!
Well, direct conversations between people in CVG and AD seem to have ameliorated some of those feelings (I hope), and I think you can see some of the good will that was present in the panel discussions and is here on this site.
But you have to imagine what I was thinking. Srsly? Oh my goodness, we have a four thousand attendee convention of our own to run over here! Does anyone think we really have time to “take over” another existing and functioning one? Maybe make another con, but not “take over” somebody else’s!
But the complaint is fair, because sometimes we convention committees and boards have fallen down on representing ourselves respectfully and even trustworthily to other organizations!
Quick! Name a concom or a board you have never heard a rumor about.
. . . Are those crickets I hear?
We would like to offer each other’s communities a framework of being able to trust their leadership to remain true to their own spheres, while also working together on their behalf. We would like to trade on the trust relationships that partner organizations have built up with their constituent members and personal networks, without asking those communities to just trust us out of hand. And we need to leave those relationships protected against outside interference.
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Posted by: Lex Larson on: July 11, 2009
So I’m reading this excellent site about Russian Fallout3 LARPers, (English translation) and I’m curious (since I don’t LARP) what kind of spaces LARPers look for when staging their games. Where do you hold your games now? What would make for an awesome game-space?
Help me out here, please. I’ve only got tabletop and LAN gaming experience, so I haven’t the first clue what LARPs need for space or amenities.
Posted by: Lex Larson on: July 10, 2009
What follows are my notes from the Geek Community Center panel held at CONvergence 2009. Panelists included Charlotte Nickerson, Charles Piehl, Jon Olsen and Michael Lee.
These are purely my personal notes of what I was able to scribble down as the discussion progressed. This isn’t a comprehensive nor complete list of what is possible for a geek community center, it’s just a place to launch the discussion.
Please feel free to add to or correct these notes in the comments. There’s a LOT of notes, so please reference the note you’re responding to in your replies.
Thanks!
Notes by Lex Larson
1. – shared back-end infrastructure, space
– location, location, location! (x3)
– map zipcodes of convention attendees to determine central location
– if possible, own the space to keep controlling interest in our hands
– could expand beyond SF&F fandom, example: square dancers renting space
2. – event space: concom meetings, Geek Prom
– Internet access
3. – community communication: events, emergencies
Posted by: Michael Lee on: July 10, 2009
I found a quote from one of the founders of Minn-Stf, Jim Young, from a Minicon panel in the late 1970s:
YOUNG: Well, you know, Minn-Stf has had a tradition of coming up with grand and glorious ideas well before it was ever able to do anything about them.
And I would like to think we carry on with this Minnesota Science Fiction Fan tradition today.
The Twin Cities has one of the richest Science Fiction Fandom/Geek/Whatever communities in the world. It is a big factor why I chose to live here as an adult — and I think over the years I can think of a number of people that have chosen to live in this region because of this community. And many of you can as well. And our hertitage is strong. Poul Anderson. Gordon R Dickson. John M. Ford. Dave Arneson. I’m sure I could list more, and I would forget as many names as I would remember or research. And I want to add to that list.
There are a lot of questions about where we want to go with this. What sort of organizational structure makes sense? We don’t want a remote umbrella organization telling us all what to do; we want to control our own destinies and activities. I’ve seen that pattern happen more than once, in more than one organization, and in more than one direction.
The most magical part of CONvergence for me is seeing all of the strange things that come out that were surprises because we have a community that encourages experimentation and glorious ideas — both large and small. Connie statues out of nowhere. Spontaneous on-line “panels” on twitter because of a joke programming item. Klingon Wedding Cermonies. A line of people in Steampunk gear, going up the stair way and around the hall.
This is not a new impulse, and the challenges also reach back through the years. I was doing some internet searches on the Minneapolis Fantasy Society, our Golden Age 1940s predecessors, and I was interested to see reference to “The Science-Weird Controversy” by Carl Jacobi, where he “examines the rivalry between science-fiction and weird fans”. I’d love to see that issue of The Fantasite.
And while we are looking back at our heritage as a community in this post — where I am really looking is the future. Because that is what we do.
Posted by: Jon Olsen on: July 7, 2009
I propose that we create a new, neutral non-profit organization with the goal of serving as a coordinating space between any and all willing fan-run organizations in the region.
What we’re talking about here is a neutral ground, comprised of experienced leaders of fan-run organizations.
Participating groups would affiliate with this organization by mutual choice
Other structures may need to be analyzed and considered
Again take note of the words:
A nonprofit which has the ability and the mandate to look for larger projects benefiting multiple organizations.
I want to put together an organization that will
1) Have autonomy
2) Preserve participating groups’ autonomy
3) Build something bigger.
A lot bigger. Like a community center.
Posted by: Jon Olsen on: June 28, 2009
I have observed something, some commonalities among fans and fan organizations. I want to describe an emergent set of principles from common behaviors. This isn’t news to most folks. But it might be a little new to put it in black and white this way for this region. But it’s also borrowed–taken from experiences and seeking to tap the experiences of others. And blue, just a little, because oh how I yearn to see us happy together.
We choose to connect over the fact of our passions, even where the sources differ.
We embrace openmindedness and imagination.
We seek participatory activities.
We enjoy challenge.
We consider community worth building because in isolation we suffer.
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